Okay so firstly… there are three reasons she is dressed like that.
1: The characters are all wearing costumes that they where in the film at some point and that is one of her costumes, although we’ve changed the colour of it on the poster.
2: Her character in the film would wear that and if you’d seen the film/when you see the film you will see that. She doesn’t leave her house in those clothes.
3: Because she looks really good and can pull if off (jealous?) and why shouldn’t she be in that outfit?
What I have a problem with is how the question is asked as if it was a negative thing.
“Why is Shanika Warren markland the only girl in her bra and knickers?”
Then the comment “what’s that all about?”
How about a comment like. “it’s it great to see a beautiful strong black woman on a movie poster in a leading role with hollywood actresses, where her part is equal to there’s, what other director over here is doing that?”
What about a comment like that?
Yes my films are multi cultural but I’ve pushed girls like red and shanika with big roles in them to get more sisters up on the big screen… and then what happens? Other people don’t give them films even though they smack up their performances.
So that means I gotta give them another job and keep pushing them because they’re talented deserve it and we need more black girls as stars. Cos movie wise. After Thandie and Naomi there is a big gap in clout before Zowie and Shanika, red, and the others… but who else is pushing them bar me… You tell me.
Or… just pick holes in what I’m doing, and pick out the one thing you deem negative because she is in pants and a bra.
The comments Noel made are all relevant – but what stood out was him saying “because she looks really good and can pull if off (jealous?) and why shouldn’t she be in that outfit”.
Yes she does look good and so do all the other girls in the poster, but why does it have to be the black girl who is sexualized? I thought that was the work for MTV?
Having not seen the film my opinion can only go so far, but after watching the unofficial trailer (which does not tell the story), it does show many scenes of Shanika in a sexual nature .
There is no denying that Noel Clarke is very talented man and he has created many opportunities for the likes of Bashy, Aml Ameen and Shanika. My comment was not geared at criticising his creativity as a director/actor/writer! But the image that he used for his publicity needed to be questioned, as I am sure all the other woman look just as attractive in their knickers and bra as Shanika! Why not use them?
I will be watching 4,3,2,1 with my critical Brown Eyez!
4,3,2,1 is out June 2nd
Noel Clarke says:
17.03.2010 at 2:31 am
I get that. But like i said it’s one of her costumes… None of the others wear this outfit. I’m disappointed that this turned into a race thing. Because it really isn’t that. I only write characters then cast actors best for it or that i support, and If some of the producers had their way everyone would have be white in the whole film. Including the character shanika plays who could be, as her mum is in the film, and the brazilian dad is not her real dad. (just because i write doesn’t mean i have all the power… yet) But of course you never see any of those battles, or the hard work that goes into convincing people. You just see a poster after 2-years of work and judge it. And even after i’d make sure it’s not and that it’s mixed cast, including pushing bashy, jacob, snakey, aml, femi, or whoever, stuff like this still comes up.
mixtapespotlight_enemy says:
17.03.2010 at 4:54 am
Well from a designer’s point of view, the poster looks great. Im not sure why it has UK & US landmarks on it, but I guess the film will clear that up.
Developing says:
17.03.2010 at 6:46 am
I can understand from two points here! 1) Being the obvious sex sells and draws attention and everyone knows any press is good press ( good or bad). So run with it Noel as this subject has proberly and will continue to come up more than once. I feel ya passion man as that is your baby your child out there lol. Brown-eyez maybe you should sit side by side with both Noel and my girl see how you feel after the movie. if this picture of the girl was wearing a track suit looking chavy what would be the issue then ( im sure you will find something say ) lol. But the truth is both of you have experienced what the poster intended attention and reaction. Now errr ahem… where are those promotional tickets floating around to the premiere floating around.. lol cough cough seriously though where are they
Dr Porridge says:
17.03.2010 at 7:56 am
Is this not more a question of women in film rather than race?
lechatnoir says:
17.03.2010 at 8:29 am
I am going to a apologize for my english.I am going for a raw translation from French straight into english.My diction isn’t smooth also.
Noel I have a lot of respect for your art. I am in the business myself albeit in the VFX .I am going to watch this movie because the theme is my all time favourite.I wouldn’t mind if you had used all white cast or an other minority other then black . It doesn’t always matter.
But you know critics and appreciation are to be expected for any movie I admit I didn’t have a problem with the bikini , I admit I thought nothing of it. But I can see why the question has been raised, I don’t see why people should see the movie first then have an opinion on the artistic work.The buy it first then see if you like it theory sounds odd to me.Clearly this isn’t how it works in any business that uses visual imagery as an advertising tool.
A poster is a promotion tool.We know the trailer alone doesn’t sway the crowd. If people are reluctant to watch a movie because the packaging sends a message they can’t relate to, this means the promotional work hasn’t been done properly.This has be reassessed immediately, if your goal is to please the multicultural crowd,you will have to cater to both genders within the niche as well.
I just felt the movie poster has the look of a an underground mixtape, the “mashup” look with the NY skyline, london landmark elements in the background.The digits with the rounded corners look more like they belong into bubble gum commercial. 4 typographic elements in the same poster is too much for the eye. It looks “crowded” even the monochromatic blue isn’t helping IMO.
You should have looked at the promotional work of tarentino for jakie brown in 1997 for example .His team produced 8 different posters for that movie , the main characters had each their own . The picture was shot in a polished black and white with a dramatic mood .A stylised typo.Each character had a signature pose also. The different clues were all in those posters, a few more bits appeared in the trailer.And if you compare the 3 official trailers and the posters you will be able to put the promo posters in the animated timeline.Now it doesn’t have to look the same but the genre cemented the rules.
Loucuz says:
17.03.2010 at 8:54 am
I have to agree with Brown Eyez on this one. Come on Noel, you and I both know that since the history of time the image of black women has been sexualized and objectified. The poster for the film it’s really disappointing. Of course people don’t know the character, as the film isn’t out. So we can only read the poster as an image. As a woman its not about being jealous it’s about RESPECT, it would be great to see some images of black women in the UK where they don’t have to be in knickers to be noticed. As a professional in the television industry, I’ve been on sets where i’ve been asked to change into my bikini! I’ve also been asked if I aspire to be a video girl?!, I have to ask myself is this what the general public think? And why not if the majority of black women on UK TV are seen in videos in knickers and bra. I’m not saying a woman should not be seen in this way, but there should be a balance and as someone who has been given a great opportunity to do so, it would be great if could exercise this.
London Baby says:
28.03.2010 at 9:31 am
what certificate is this film?
jdthomson says:
3.05.2010 at 2:41 pm
another amzing film from
Noel Clarke hope its like the others
shank i thot was really gd n ah-kh
Rii Rii says:
24.05.2010 at 7:41 pm
im a black female myself but i dont see why people are taking it soo seirously and critising it nd you know your going to go watch it anyway! wats the point! but sometimes critising helps but i dnt know why gal are raising such a big issue..look in the kidulthood poster ders no1 in bra and knickers but u can see it clearly in the film soo why dont anyone complain about that!!! I think that the poster is good and if you look deeply into it the clothing obviously tells you their characteristics soo rather than JUST SPOT THE BLACK GYAL! look at the poster ca every poster has a meaning get mee!..its only a film jus be eazii nd go watch it den have your say!
Noel clarke im happy for you..you all stepped up big time keep doing your ting!!
Wats the classification by the way???
Alice says:
6.06.2010 at 1:17 pm
I think that she looks great and if its only her character that requires her in her underwear then what is the point in Noel putting everyone in their bras and knickers plus she looks amazing and no matter what anyone says on here I’m sure that it’s going to attract alot of male viewers. From the looks of the trailer and the reviews It’s going to be an amazing film and that’s all that matters so WELL DONE NOEL!
Alicia says:
9.06.2010 at 2:10 pm
Shanika is gorgeous and has an amazing figure, she is a great role model for young black women and I hope she does get more roles in a variety of films and programmes. I do understand the argument though, its not that shes the only black girl or hating or nothing but it just instantly causes confusion as to why she is the only one with no clothes and thats the truth.
Leanne says:
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I think the poster looks hot, and that the film will be brill, i think noel is a amazing writer and deff picks the best actors n actresses no problems xxx
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beautiful white man says:
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Janice aka Miss Mad News says:
16.03.2010 at 12:15 pmWhat is that all about???
Noel Clarke says:
16.03.2010 at 1:44 pmHmmmmm.
Okay so firstly… there are three reasons she is dressed like that.
1: The characters are all wearing costumes that they where in the film at some point and that is one of her costumes, although we’ve changed the colour of it on the poster.
2: Her character in the film would wear that and if you’d seen the film/when you see the film you will see that. She doesn’t leave her house in those clothes.
3: Because she looks really good and can pull if off (jealous?) and why shouldn’t she be in that outfit?
What I have a problem with is how the question is asked as if it was a negative thing.
“Why is Shanika Warren markland the only girl in her bra and knickers?”
Then the comment “what’s that all about?”
How about a comment like. “it’s it great to see a beautiful strong black woman on a movie poster in a leading role with hollywood actresses, where her part is equal to there’s, what other director over here is doing that?”
What about a comment like that?
Yes my films are multi cultural but I’ve pushed girls like red and shanika with big roles in them to get more sisters up on the big screen… and then what happens? Other people don’t give them films even though they smack up their performances.
So that means I gotta give them another job and keep pushing them because they’re talented deserve it and we need more black girls as stars. Cos movie wise. After Thandie and Naomi there is a big gap in clout before Zowie and Shanika, red, and the others… but who else is pushing them bar me… You tell me.
Or… just pick holes in what I’m doing, and pick out the one thing you deem negative because she is in pants and a bra.
BangDoh says:
16.03.2010 at 7:39 pmThe comments Noel made are all relevant – but what stood out was him saying “because she looks really good and can pull if off (jealous?) and why shouldn’t she be in that outfit”.
Yes she does look good and so do all the other girls in the poster, but why does it have to be the black girl who is sexualized? I thought that was the work for MTV?
Having not seen the film my opinion can only go so far, but after watching the unofficial trailer (which does not tell the story), it does show many scenes of Shanika in a sexual nature .
There is no denying that Noel Clarke is very talented man and he has created many opportunities for the likes of Bashy, Aml Ameen and Shanika. My comment was not geared at criticising his creativity as a director/actor/writer! But the image that he used for his publicity needed to be questioned, as I am sure all the other woman look just as attractive in their knickers and bra as Shanika! Why not use them?
I will be watching 4,3,2,1 with my critical Brown Eyez!
4,3,2,1 is out June 2nd
Noel Clarke says:
17.03.2010 at 2:31 amI get that. But like i said it’s one of her costumes… None of the others wear this outfit. I’m disappointed that this turned into a race thing. Because it really isn’t that. I only write characters then cast actors best for it or that i support, and If some of the producers had their way everyone would have be white in the whole film. Including the character shanika plays who could be, as her mum is in the film, and the brazilian dad is not her real dad. (just because i write doesn’t mean i have all the power… yet) But of course you never see any of those battles, or the hard work that goes into convincing people. You just see a poster after 2-years of work and judge it. And even after i’d make sure it’s not and that it’s mixed cast, including pushing bashy, jacob, snakey, aml, femi, or whoever, stuff like this still comes up.
mixtapespotlight_enemy says:
17.03.2010 at 4:54 amWell from a designer’s point of view, the poster looks great. Im not sure why it has UK & US landmarks on it, but I guess the film will clear that up.
Developing says:
17.03.2010 at 6:46 amI can understand from two points here! 1) Being the obvious sex sells and draws attention and everyone knows any press is good press ( good or bad). So run with it Noel as this subject has proberly and will continue to come up more than once. I feel ya passion man as that is your baby your child out there lol. Brown-eyez maybe you should sit side by side with both Noel and my girl see how you feel after the movie. if this picture of the girl was wearing a track suit looking chavy what would be the issue then ( im sure you will find something say ) lol. But the truth is both of you have experienced what the poster intended attention and reaction. Now errr ahem… where are those promotional tickets floating around to the premiere floating around.. lol cough cough seriously though where are they
Dr Porridge says:
17.03.2010 at 7:56 amIs this not more a question of women in film rather than race?
lechatnoir says:
17.03.2010 at 8:29 amI am going to a apologize for my english.I am going for a raw translation from French straight into english.My diction isn’t smooth also.
Noel I have a lot of respect for your art. I am in the business myself albeit in the VFX .I am going to watch this movie because the theme is my all time favourite.I wouldn’t mind if you had used all white cast or an other minority other then black . It doesn’t always matter.
But you know critics and appreciation are to be expected for any movie I admit I didn’t have a problem with the bikini , I admit I thought nothing of it. But I can see why the question has been raised, I don’t see why people should see the movie first then have an opinion on the artistic work.The buy it first then see if you like it theory sounds odd to me.Clearly this isn’t how it works in any business that uses visual imagery as an advertising tool.
A poster is a promotion tool.We know the trailer alone doesn’t sway the crowd. If people are reluctant to watch a movie because the packaging sends a message they can’t relate to, this means the promotional work hasn’t been done properly.This has be reassessed immediately, if your goal is to please the multicultural crowd,you will have to cater to both genders within the niche as well.
I just felt the movie poster has the look of a an underground mixtape, the “mashup” look with the NY skyline, london landmark elements in the background.The digits with the rounded corners look more like they belong into bubble gum commercial. 4 typographic elements in the same poster is too much for the eye. It looks “crowded” even the monochromatic blue isn’t helping IMO.
You should have looked at the promotional work of tarentino for jakie brown in 1997 for example .His team produced 8 different posters for that movie , the main characters had each their own . The picture was shot in a polished black and white with a dramatic mood .A stylised typo.Each character had a signature pose also. The different clues were all in those posters, a few more bits appeared in the trailer.And if you compare the 3 official trailers and the posters you will be able to put the promo posters in the animated timeline.Now it doesn’t have to look the same but the genre cemented the rules.
Loucuz says:
17.03.2010 at 8:54 amI have to agree with Brown Eyez on this one. Come on Noel, you and I both know that since the history of time the image of black women has been sexualized and objectified. The poster for the film it’s really disappointing. Of course people don’t know the character, as the film isn’t out. So we can only read the poster as an image. As a woman its not about being jealous it’s about RESPECT, it would be great to see some images of black women in the UK where they don’t have to be in knickers to be noticed. As a professional in the television industry, I’ve been on sets where i’ve been asked to change into my bikini! I’ve also been asked if I aspire to be a video girl?!, I have to ask myself is this what the general public think? And why not if the majority of black women on UK TV are seen in videos in knickers and bra. I’m not saying a woman should not be seen in this way, but there should be a balance and as someone who has been given a great opportunity to do so, it would be great if could exercise this.
London Baby says:
28.03.2010 at 9:31 amwhat certificate is this film?
jdthomson says:
3.05.2010 at 2:41 pmanother amzing film from
Noel Clarke hope its like the others
shank i thot was really gd n ah-kh
Rii Rii says:
24.05.2010 at 7:41 pmim a black female myself but i dont see why people are taking it soo seirously and critising it nd you know your going to go watch it anyway! wats the point! but sometimes critising helps but i dnt know why gal are raising such a big issue..look in the kidulthood poster ders no1 in bra and knickers but u can see it clearly in the film soo why dont anyone complain about that!!! I think that the poster is good and if you look deeply into it the clothing obviously tells you their characteristics soo rather than JUST SPOT THE BLACK GYAL! look at the poster ca every poster has a meaning get mee!..its only a film jus be eazii nd go watch it den have your say!
Noel clarke im happy for you..you all stepped up big time keep doing your ting!!
Wats the classification by the way???
Alice says:
6.06.2010 at 1:17 pmI think that she looks great and if its only her character that requires her in her underwear then what is the point in Noel putting everyone in their bras and knickers plus she looks amazing and no matter what anyone says on here I’m sure that it’s going to attract alot of male viewers. From the looks of the trailer and the reviews It’s going to be an amazing film and that’s all that matters so WELL DONE NOEL!
Alicia says:
9.06.2010 at 2:10 pmShanika is gorgeous and has an amazing figure, she is a great role model for young black women and I hope she does get more roles in a variety of films and programmes. I do understand the argument though, its not that shes the only black girl or hating or nothing but it just instantly causes confusion as to why she is the only one with no clothes and thats the truth.
Leanne says:
24.06.2010 at 1:20 pmI think the poster looks hot, and that the film will be brill, i think noel is a amazing writer and deff picks the best actors n actresses no problems xxx
hamza says:
14.07.2010 at 4:23 amnoel clarke iz a pussyclot
hamza says:
14.07.2010 at 4:24 amu all r pussys
beautiful white man says:
23.07.2010 at 2:43 pmi dnt understand y u say a beautiful black women and bashey with his batty tune black boys !!! black boys black boys yer were all black boys !!!! welll derrr i can see that and if u lot want white people and black to equal WITCH we all r before u say im rasits im not i have plenty of black family STOP GOING ON ABOUT FUCKINGGGGGG COLOUR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u dnt see going around all day saying im hard done by coz im white or bring out a tune white boys do ya sooooo sort it out !!!!!!!!!!!
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